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Clogged Toilet Solutions Every Pittsburgh Homeowner Should Know
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Clogged toilets are one of the most common—and frustrating—plumbing problems homeowners face, especially in older Pittsburgh homes with aging pipes and sewer systems. In this episode, we break down the real causes behind stubborn toilet clogs, from excessive toilet paper use and “flushable” wipes to hidden sewer line damage and weak flushing systems. You’ll learn practical clogged toilet solutions that actually work, including how to unclog a toilet without a plunger, proper plunging techniques, and preventative plumbing tips that can save you from costly water damage and emergency plumbing repairs. Whether you’re dealing with recurring bathroom plumbing issues or simply want to prevent future blockages, this episode delivers expert-backed plumbing advice every Pittsburgh homeowner should know.
You know, uh that moment of pure slow motion terror.
SPEAKER_00Oh absolutely.
SPEAKER_01You push the silver handle down, expecting the usual, you know, swift, noisy exit.
SPEAKER_00A normal flush.
SPEAKER_01Right. But instead, the water hesitates. It spins lazily. And then defying all that is good and right in the world, the water level starts rising toward the rim.
SPEAKER_00The dreaded reverse flow.
SPEAKER_01It's awful.
SPEAKER_00It really is a universal human panic. Your heart rate spikes, your eyes lock onto the edge of the porcelain, and you uh you immediately start calculating the distance to the nearest stack of old towels. Totally. We like our home infrastructure to be completely invisible. Yeah. When it suddenly becomes very visible and threatens to spill onto your bath mat, it's terrifying.
SPEAKER_01It really is. So welcome to the deep dive, where today our mission is decoding exactly that high-stakes, panic-inducing household crisis.
SPEAKER_00The clog toilet.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. And we are pulling from a highly specific battle-tested manual today. It's an essential breakdown of how to unclog and prevent blockages.
SPEAKER_00Right, built from the ground up on 30 years of hands-on plumbing experience serving homes in Pittsburgh.
SPEAKER_01Which is such a fantastic foundation for us to work from.
SPEAKER_00It really is. Because resolving this issue quickly isn't just about avoiding a temporary inconvenience or, you know, a gross cleanup. It is fundamentally about protecting your home from severe water damage. An overflowing toilet is a biohazard and a structural threat rolled into one. When water breaches that rim, you are on the clock.
SPEAKER_01And while this sounds like a purely dirty job, something you solve with brute force, a plunger, and a lot of swearing, the reality is that clearing a clog is actually this incredible masterclass in physics, chemistry, and preventative engineering. Plus, the data from our source shows that 85% of typical clogs can be fixed in under an hour without requiring any specialized, expensive tools.
SPEAKER_00Which is just an incredibly empowering statistic for anyone listening. It means that the vast majority of the time, you have the capacity to solve this yourself right now, provided you actually understand the mechanics of what you are fighting in that.
SPEAKER_01Right. So before we can learn how to destroy a clog, we have to understand how we accidentally build them in the first place.
SPEAKER_00Makes sense.
SPEAKER_01If we look at the anatomy of a clog, what is actually causing these blockages?
SPEAKER_00Well, it all comes down to the golden rule of plumbing. The industry standard is the three P's rule.
SPEAKER_01The three P's.
SPEAKER_00Right. Only pee poop and toilet paper belong in the bowl. That is it.
SPEAKER_01That's the list.
SPEAKER_00That's the entire list. The municipal waste system, from your bathroom down to the treatment plant, is engineered exclusively for those three things.
SPEAKER_01But people treat the toilet like a magic trash can. You know, out of sight, out of mind.
SPEAKER_00They do. And the consequences are expensive. I mean, the number one offender by far is the flushable wipe.
SPEAKER_01Ah, the flushable wipe.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, the packaging literally says flushable, so you drop it in. But that marketing is highly deceptive.
SPEAKER_01Wow.
SPEAKER_00Unlike toilet paper, which is designed to disintegrate on contact with moving water, wet wipes are manufactured with woven synthetic fibers or even plastics.
SPEAKER_01Oh, to resist tearing when you use them.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. They do not break down in water. They travel down your pike completely intact, looking for a rough edge to snag on.
SPEAKER_01And it's not just wipes, right? There is a whole lineup of surprising everyday hazards. Like feminine hygiene products are a huge one. Think about the engineering there. They are literally designed to absorb moisture and dramatically expand their volume.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_01That is the exact opposite of what you want happening inside a narrow three-inch pipe. Then you have paper towels, facial tissues, and even tiny things like cotton swabs.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, cotton swabs are insidious. Really? Yeah. You look at them and think it's so small it'll just flush away. But they act like little javelins.
SPEAKER_01Little javelins.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. When they travel down the pipe, they don't always go straight. They get wedged laterally across pipe joints or caught in the S bends where the pipe sections turn.
SPEAKER_01Oh man.
SPEAKER_00Once a cotton swab is wedged horizontally, it forms a microscopic dam, catches a hair, then a piece of tissue, then some solid waste, until a massive, impenetrable clog forms out of nowhere.
SPEAKER_01Okay, let's unpack this for a second because I have a bone to pick with the toilet paper part of the three P's rule. Right. If toilet paper is explicitly on the approved list and it's engineered to dissolve, how is it constantly causing backups? Because I know for a fact toilet paper causes clogs.
SPEAKER_00It's a completely fair point. The issue isn't the material itself, it's the geometry of how you use it. Exactly, user error. The worst offender is that thick triple ply quilted toilet paper. It takes much longer to dissolve simply because there's more physical mass, but the real structural culprit is watting.
SPEAKER_01Uh, the old scrunch versus fold debate.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_01I was thinking about this, and watting up a massive handful of thick toilet paper is basically like trying to swallow a whole sandwich without chewing.
SPEAKER_00That is a perfect analogy.
SPEAKER_01Your throat, or in this case the toilet trap, just can't handle the sheer volume of that solid mass all at once.
SPEAKER_00Right. And it's not just that it can't handle the volume, it's about fluid dynamics. The trap is that curved, S-shaped channel at the base of the toilet, which is there to hold a seal of water and keep sewer gases from coming into your bathroom.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00When you ball up the paper, you're creating a dense solid sphere. The water can only interact with the outside of that sphere, leaving the dry core completely intact. It wedges right into the curve of the traps, blocking the water flow entirely.
SPEAKER_01Makes sense.
SPEAKER_00But folding your toilet paper, on the other hand, creates distinct layers. It exposes significantly more surface area for the water to act on.
SPEAKER_01So the water gets in between the layers.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. It penetrates between the layers, dissolving it exponentially faster. And as a bonus, you actually end up using less paper overall to get the job done.
SPEAKER_01So sometimes it's our own fault for watting up a paper boulder.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But what if you are following the three Ps perfectly, you know, folding your paper like origami, and you still get a clog? There are hidden mechanical failures inside the toilet tank itself that set you up for failure, right?
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. The mechanics of the flush itself dictate whether waste clears your house or gets stranded in the pipe.
SPEAKER_01So it's not just a given.
SPEAKER_00No. A successful flush requires a specific volume of water delivered at a specific velocity to create a siphon effect.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00If your tank has a water logged flapper, that's the rubber valve at the bottom of the tank that lifts when you push the handle, it might fall back down and close too fast.
SPEAKER_01Cutting off the water.
SPEAKER_00Right. That cuts off the water flow prematurely before the waste actually crests the trap.
SPEAKER_01Or the tank float is sitting too low. Yes. If the water level inside the back tank is resting more than an inch below the overflow pipe, you simply don't have enough potential energy stored up in the tank. Exactly. When you flush, gravity doesn't have enough mass to pull down. It creates this weak, lazy flush that just pushes waste a few inches down the line and abandons it there.
SPEAKER_00And you know, if we want to talk about unexpected mechanics, we have to look up.
SPEAKER_01Look up.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. It sounds bizarre, but a stubborn recurring clog might actually be starting on your roof.
SPEAKER_01This blew my mind. How on earth does the roof have anything to do with the toilet overflowing in a downstairs powder room?
SPEAKER_00It's atmospheric pressure. Okay. Every plumbing system has vent pipes that run from the drain lines up through the walls and exit out the roof.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I've seen those pipes.
SPEAKER_00Right. They pull fresh air into the plumbing system to equalize pressure behind the descending water. Think of holding your finger over the top of a straw filled with liquid.
SPEAKER_01The liquid stays in the straw.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. The liquid won't drop out of the bottom until you remove your finger and let air in from the top.
SPEAKER_01Oh wow. So if a bird builds a nest in that roof vent, or it gets completely covered in heavy snow or clogged with autumn leaves.
SPEAKER_00Your plumbing system is suffocating. It can't pull air. That's wild. Without that fresh atmospheric pressure dropping in behind the flush, the water drains sluggishly. It creates a vacuum effect that slows everything down, leaving waste behind to build up.
SPEAKER_01So how do you know if that's the problem?
SPEAKER_00A dead giveaway for a blocked roof vent is a lingering sewage smell in the bathroom. Because those foul gases have nowhere to vent outside, so the pressure pushes them back through the water seal and into your home.
SPEAKER_01That is wild. Everything is deeply connected.
SPEAKER_00It really is.
SPEAKER_01But okay, let's bring it back to the moment of crisis. Right. The water is rising, we know why it's happening, but now we have to fix it. Right. If a bird nest isn't the problem, and we've just got a massive blockage of paper and organic matter, how do we clear it? Because the source material offers solutions that don't even require touching a plunger.
SPEAKER_00This is where that 85% success rate comes into play. The most effective first line defense requires just two things you probably have in your kitchen right now. Which are liquid dish soap and hot water.
SPEAKER_01Now wait. If hot water is good, wouldn't boiling water be vastly better? Like just pour a whistling kettle of actively boiling water in there to instantly melt the fats in whatever is blocking the pipe.
SPEAKER_00Stop right there.
SPEAKER_01Wait, really?
SPEAKER_00Please do not do that under any circumstances. Boiling water will crack the porcelain bowl. Oh jeez. Yeah. Yeah. Porcelain is incredibly durable for its intended use, but ceramic materials do not handle sudden extreme temperature changes well. It's a crystalline structure. If you pour 212 degree boiling water into a 60-degree cold toilet bowl, the inside of the porcelain expands rapidly while the outside remains contracted.
SPEAKER_01That sounds bad.
SPEAKER_00It is. That thermal shock will literally split the ceramic in half, and then you have a flood of contaminated water all over your bathroom floor and a ruined toilet that needs replacing.
SPEAKER_01So just hot water.
SPEAKER_00You want hot water straight from the tap.
SPEAKER_01Tap hot. Got it. So you fill a bucket with tap hot water, squirt a generous amount of liquid dish soap directly into the bowl, aiming for the drain hole, pour the hot water in, and just wait 10 to 15 minutes.
SPEAKER_00What's fascinating here is the microscopic battle happening while you wait. We aren't just making it smell like lemons. Right. We're utilizing saponification and lubrication. Dish soap is chemically engineered to break down complex organic matter.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00The soap molecules are uniquely structured. They have a hydrophobic end, which means it repels water, but aggressively seeks out and attaches to fats, oils, and grease.
SPEAKER_01And the other end.
SPEAKER_00A hydrophilic end, which bonds with water.
SPEAKER_01So they're basically acting like little molecular crowbars.
SPEAKER_00They absolutely are. They form structures called micelles around the solid waste, essentially pulling it apart at a microscopic level. Wow. Meanwhile, the hot tap water provides the thermal energy to soften the whole mass. As the soap works its way into the clog, it acts as a high grade lubricant, drastically reducing the friction between the clog itself and the PVC or iron walls of the pipe. After 10 or 15 minutes, the blockage often just loses its grip and slides right through.
SPEAKER_01That is incredibly satisfying. But if you want something with a bit more theatrical flair, there are other chemical reactions we can deploy.
SPEAKER_00Oh, definitely.
SPEAKER_01Baking soda and vinegar, for instance.
SPEAKER_00The classic middle school science fair volcano.
SPEAKER_01Exactly.
SPEAKER_00You pour one cup of baking soda into the bowl first, and then you very slowly add two cups of white vinegar.
SPEAKER_01Slowly being the operative word, unless you want a foam party of contaminated toilet water spilling onto your bathrug.
SPEAKER_00Precisely. But that fizzing reaction isn't just for show. It's an acid-based chemical reaction that generates carbon dioxide gas. Okay. In the enclosed space of a toilet trap, those rapidly expanding gas bubbles create actual mechanical pressure. The expanding foam pushes against the top of the clog while the bubbles literally agitate and break the solid mass into smaller particles.
SPEAKER_01So it's actively chewing away at it.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00You let that sit for 30 minutes, and for really stubborn clogs, you can even leave it overnight to slowly chew away at the blockage.
SPEAKER_01And there's another pantry staple that works entirely differently. Epsom salts, magnesium sulfate.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_01You drop one cup of that into the bowl and it creates a fizzing effect, but it's not an acid-base reaction like the vinegar, right?
SPEAKER_00Right. Magnesium sulfate is highly soluble in water. When it hits the bowl, it creates a heavy, dense saline solution.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00This alters the osmotic pressure around the organic waste. It actually draws moisture into the cellular structure of the solid mass, softening it aggressively without the volatile bubbling of the vinegar trick.
SPEAKER_01And how long do you wait for that?
SPEAKER_00You wait fifteen minutes, follow it with four cups of warm water to provide some gentle thermal force, and flush.
SPEAKER_01It's a fantastic alternative if you don't have enough vinegar on hand.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it is.
SPEAKER_01There's also a more tactile DIY hack for when chemistry needs a little physical help. The wire coat hanger trick.
SPEAKER_00Ugh, the hanger.
SPEAKER_01You untwist a metal clothes hanger to use as a makeshift drain snake, but and this is a massive, but you absolutely have to wrap a cloth or an old rag around the hook end. Essential. Because if you just jam a bare steel wire down there, you are going to permanently scratch up the visible porcelain in the bowl.
SPEAKER_00And those dark gray metal transfer scratches do not come out ever.
SPEAKER_01Ugh, I can imagine.
SPEAKER_00You wrap the end tightly, put on some thick rubber gloves, insert it into the trap, and gently wiggle it around to physically break up the obstruction. It's great for clogs that are just barely out of reach.
SPEAKER_01But what happens when kitchen chemistry and padded coat hangers aren't enough? I mean, chemistry takes time.
SPEAKER_00It does.
SPEAKER_01Sometimes you have to escalate to mechanical warfare because you need this fixed right now. Which brings us to the tool everyone assumes they should start with the plunger. The plunger.
SPEAKER_00Yes, but this is where we see a crucial error. Most people are fighting with the wrong weapon.
SPEAKER_01What do you mean?
SPEAKER_00They use a standard cup plunger. You know the one that looks like a simple rubber house sphere on a stick?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the classic one.
SPEAKER_00That design is exclusively for flat surfaces, like a kitchen sink or a shower drain. For a toilet, which has a curved, irregular drain opening, you need a flange plunger.
SPEAKER_01A flange plunger. That's the one with the extra rubber flap or sleeve extending out from the bottom of the cup, right?
SPEAKER_00That extra flap is everything. It is designed to insert directly into the toilet drain opening, creating a tight, focused seal.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I see.
SPEAKER_00If you try to plunge a toilet with a flat cup plunger, you don't have a seal. The force of your plunging is just escaping out the sides, splashing dirty water back up at you instead of pushing down into the pipe.
SPEAKER_01Here's where it gets really interesting. Because having the right tool is only half the battle. The technique you actually need to use is totally counterintuitive. I always imagined plunging was just about applying maximum brute force immediately. Like you're aggressively pumping the handle up and down as fast as you can.
SPEAKER_00Most people do.
SPEAKER_01But doing that is essentially like trying to punch underwater. You're expending massive energy, splashing chaotically, and losing all your force before it reaches the target.
SPEAKER_00Punching underwater is the perfect way to visualize it. It comes down to the fundamental physics of plunging.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00When you first place the plunger into the bowl, that rubber cup is full of air. Air is a gas, and gases are highly compressible. The molecules are far apart. Right. If you start aggressively thrusting right away, you're just squishing that air bubble back and forth like a soft spring. Yeah. You are transferring almost zero kinetic energy to the clog itself.
SPEAKER_01So how do we actually transfer the energy?
SPEAKER_00You must start with one very gentle slow push downward.
SPEAKER_01Just one.
SPEAKER_00Just one. The goal of this first delicate push is simply to expel the trapped air out from under the cup. You want to hear that air bubble escape into the bowl. When the air leaves, water rushes in to fill the space under the rubber cup. Water is a liquid. It does not compress easily. Once the cup is filled with water, your plunger transforms into a hydraulic piston.
SPEAKER_01That makes total sense. You burp the plunger first.
SPEAKER_00You burp it. Then, keeping that firm seal with the flange, you execute 10 to 12 rapid, forceful thrusts, pushing down and pulling up for about 15 to 20 seconds. Push and pull. Yes, the downward push forces a column of water violently against the clog, and the upward pull creates a vacuum that yanks it backward. That rapid hydraulic push-pull oscillation is what finally tears the structural integrity of the blockage apart.
SPEAKER_01But let's say you do the flawless burped plunger hydraulic piston technique, you sweat through your shirt and the water still doesn't move. What's our next move? Because I'm at the point where I'm calling a plumber.
SPEAKER_00Well, before you pay a dispatch fee, there are two escalation tools for when you suspect a solid object, like a child's toy or a fallen toothbrush, is wedged in the trap.
SPEAKER_01Okay, what's the first one?
SPEAKER_00The first is the toilet auger. This is a specialized plumbing snake. It has a long metal cable, but crucially it has a curved plastic sleeve at the bottom. Ah, to protect the bowl. Exactly. That plastic sleeve rests against the curve of the bowl and protects the porcelain while you feed the metal cable down into the drain.
SPEAKER_01And then you just push it.
SPEAKER_00You push the cable while turning the handle clockwise. When you hit the obstruction, that corkscrew action allows you to either bore through the clog to destroy it, or hook the solid object and pull it out.
SPEAKER_01And if you don't own a specialized toilet auger, there is a method that sounds highly unconventional, but apparently it is a powerhouse. The wet dree shop vacuum.
SPEAKER_00Oh yes. It's an incredibly effective technique utilizing pure suction mechanics, provided you follow a very strict order of operations.
SPEAKER_01Yes, strict is an understatement here. If you are listening to this right now and thinking of trying the vacuum trick this weekend, listen to me very carefully.
SPEAKER_00Listen closely.
SPEAKER_01Because if you mess this up, you are spraying sewage all over your garage. First, you have to turn off the water supply valve behind the toilet. Second, and do not forget this, you must take the dry paper filter OUT of the vacuum canister.
SPEAKER_00Yes. If you leave a dry paper dust filter in a vacuum that is sucking up water, it will instantly disintegrate, clog the motor housing, and completely ruin the machine.
SPEAKER_01Right. Filter out.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Out. Then you use the vacuum to suck all the standing water out of the bowl until it's totally dry. Once it's empty, you shove the vacuum hose directly into the toilet drain hole. Right. But to make it work, you have to wrap an old towel around the hose where it meets the porcelain to create an airtight seal. You have to seal the gap.
SPEAKER_00The seal is everything.
SPEAKER_01Then turn the vacuum on for about 10 seconds. The sheer suction power, completely unobstructed by water, can often yank out a stubborn plastic toy that a plunger could never dislodge.
SPEAKER_00It is brilliant brute force vacuum physics, but it also brings us to a really important line in the sand.
SPEAKER_01Yes, the tipping point. All these DIY methods are great, but there is a clearly defined moment when you need to stop playing plumber and surrender to the professionals.
SPEAKER_00Knowing when to stop is just as important as knowing how to start. Definitely. The primary warning sign is a systemic failure. If you are plunging the downstairs toilet and suddenly you hear gurgling coming from the bathroom sink, or worse, dirty water starts backing up into your shower basin.
SPEAKER_01Uh-oh.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you're no longer dealing with a clogged toilet.
SPEAKER_01The clog isn't in the toilet trap at all.
SPEAKER_00It's way past it. The blockage is located much deeper in the main sewer line that connects all the branch strains in your house. None of your localized DIY tricks, not the dish soap, not the auger, not the shop vacuum, will ever reach it.
SPEAKER_01Wow.
SPEAKER_00You need a professional with 50 feet of motorized steel cable to clear that.
SPEAKER_01And the specific context here is crucial. This 30-year manual was written for homes in Pittsburgh, which brings up a terrifying point about the older architecture there.
SPEAKER_00Right, many older homes in Pittsburgh and across the Northeast are built with wooden floor joists rather than concrete slabs.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00If you let a toilet stubbornly overflow, or if a deeper sewer clog causes sustained, slow leaks at the wax ring under the toilet, that contaminated water seeps right through the tile.
SPEAKER_01Oh no.
SPEAKER_00It gets into the plywood subfloor and eventually rots the structural wooden joists holding your bathroom up.
SPEAKER_01So a clogged toilet can literally rot the bones of your house.
SPEAKER_00If we connect this to the bigger picture, professional plumbers aren't just there to plunge toilets you don't want to deal with. They are fundamentally there to fight the invisible enemies underground.
SPEAKER_01Invisible enemies.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Frequent recurring clogs, even if you follow the three P's perfectly, are a massive red flag that your home is under attack.
SPEAKER_01What kind of invisible enemies are we talking about?
SPEAKER_00Tree roots are a major one.
SPEAKER_01Oh wow.
SPEAKER_00Trees aggressively seek out moisture, and their hair-like roots can squeeze through microscopic cracks, older clay, or concrete underground sewer pipes.
SPEAKER_01So they just get in.
SPEAKER_00Once inside, they feast on the nutrient-rich water and grow into dense, fibrous nets that catch every piece of paper trying to leave your house.
SPEAKER_01That's terrifying. What else?
SPEAKER_00Another hidden issue is corroded cast iron pipes. Over decades, the inside of an iron pipe rusts and flakes.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00It undergoes a process called tuberculation, developing jagged, mineralized stalactites that have a texture like rough sandpaper.
SPEAKER_01Oh, so it just grabs everything.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. It aggressively snags waste, building clogs over and over again, no matter how much dish soap you pour down there.
SPEAKER_01So what does this all mean? Let's bring this home. We've gone from panic at the silver handle to the chemical mechanics of sponification to the hydraulic physics of plungers.
SPEAKER_00It's quite a journey.
SPEAKER_01It is. If you take anything away from this to protect your home, the rules are clear. First, respect the three posse poop and toilet paper only. Do not believe the packaging on the flushable wipe.
SPEAKER_00Never.
SPEAKER_01Second, rethink your toilet paper habits, fold it to maximize surface area for the water. To act on instead of wadding it into an impenetrable boulder.
SPEAKER_00Fold don't wad.
SPEAKER_01Third, remember that your plumbing is a holistic atmospheric system, so check those roof vents if things smell off. And finally, when disaster strikes, remember that 85% of the time, tap hot water and dish soap are your absolute best first line of defense.
SPEAKER_00It's all about understanding the system rather than just fighting the symptoms. And, you know, to leave you with a completely different perspective, consider the incredible, delicate, balancing act of physics, water pressure, and architecture that happens every single time you push that handle. That's true. It really is a marvel of modern invisible infrastructure that we entirely take for granted, right up until the moment the water stops going down and starts coming up.
SPEAKER_01That is such a fascinating way to look at it. A marvel of invisible infrastructure. Well, thank you for joining us on this deep dive into the unexpected engineering of home maintenance. Keep your dish so pandy, definitely buy a flange plunger, and we'll catch you next time.